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Being provocative is one thing, good design is another. Don't mix both just because you selling books by using provocative words and then saying it works and then saying it's good design, too much assumptions... You would pass by in a non design community, here, however, that would never happen.
You did a good job tho, I don't want to depreciate it in any way, just don't use the words good design there. If you use it, you are misleading people.
What you did was to provoke people and make them remember about the old good times of the web. I'm not going to discuss semantics with you and please stop using the word design!!!
If you want to remember people about how the web was some time ago or how we are all complicating things or how easy it is to pass a message without complicating too much that's one story, but if you wanna talk about good design and compare it to what you just did that's a completely different story.
If you go to a stadium and get naked you can get the same attention that you did here and people will forget about it, like they will forget about what you just did.
You and Jason fried suffer from the same problem, strong statements, some good old truths in the middle, then generalize and use the word "aesthetics" and "design" just to provoke people.
I'm not saying I didn't liked your page, I did, there is some good stuff there. But that doesn't give you the right to come here and use one truth to glue another one that looks like a true when it isn't.
What you did has nothing to do with design.
I'm not that kind of guy ;) and I have no idea what will happen 100+ yrs from now, what I know now is that different solutions need different coding and you can't generalize everything now, just because you have a framework on the web that lets you be lazy about your work. That is a trend. Framework on top of framework on top of framework, for a simple site? c'mon... It's like using windows programs just to look like you are working on something really complex and you have to do all this and this and that just to produce some lines of text... It looks cool and it will make you look busy I know, but that was long time ago. And no one is mad about a simple guy that want to test something out to see if it makes money or not, people are mad because thats becoming an excuse to make everything now, and companies are paying attention to it and then they will want to make everything work on that shit, yes people are that lazy.
I bet front-page had the same thoughts when it was built some years ago... We still code today, for the same reasons that we will still code years from now.
I'm getting tired of this kind of frameworks, that do everything, there is one now for iphone, you just buy it, make some stuff and bang, iphone app done, lame-o ... doesn't matter if you are make money, it's lame-o :P it's cheating. And cheating is lame-o. It's ok to be lame-o when you are starting out, It's ok to stink a bit, but after it, it's bad specially if you are using a pre made css. At least hire a designer to make your css. And don't act like you are the king of the world, you are lame and people wont take you seriously, period.
One thing I know about MS is that they follow trends, but they have no clue about what they are doing or at least don't have coherent approach to design principals so, yup, your last paragraph pretty much nails it. Also the statement works well on windows 8 too.
I wish apple would invest some time in making an email competitor. Gmail is not bad but eating rice every day is boring.
Loved the article, it covers great points, but I think there are more companies like apple, square and tesla are among them... they are not in the same market, but the cores are pretty much the same. I think it's too risky to be like apple, but there are companies like that if you look better. Still lovely article.
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