R.I.P. Ember (blog.realmacsoftware.com)
over 7 years ago from William Bout, Designer & Developer
over 7 years ago from William Bout, Designer & Developer
As someone who has spent the last two months of his life working on a EmberJS project, this post made my heart stop.
I can relate. Phew!
how satisfied are u with emberJS?
"Because Ember is not a fully sustainable product"
Really? I supported you guys and this is what I get :(
I'm never, ever buying anything from RealMac again.
I bought the Mac app and the iOS app. The sync feature never worked properly and I continually lost files. They finally shut down the iOS app because they couldn't figure out the Dropbox API or the iCloud API, and it was easier to just kill it. Now they officially stop updating the main app as well because it isn't a "fully sustainable product". Bull. Shit.
At least they aren't continuing to waste resources with that Depp Dreaming thing, which is just repackaging open-source code to sell. Who even uses RapidWeaver, anyway? The entire industry moved away from those sort of programs like, 5 years ago.
I've been hearing a lot of comments similar to "I'm never, ever buying anything from RealMac again.". Think that's why I've held off on signing up for Typed, even though it seemed nice (but again, their Mac app at least had nothing over the iA Writer app).
Yea I don't wish them any malice, but the way they tried to launch Clear 2 really irked me, and their shitty solution to syncing problems in Ember (i.e. dropping features and finally the whole product) is enough to keep me away for good.
I basically have no faith that they aren't going to come up with a "great new idea" in a few months and stop developing their current products, or try to charge me again for a new version that actually works.
Not to mention the fact that when they first introduced ember they were asking for $49.99 dollars and their reason for justifying that was that they will continuously support it with updates.
Reality has been different.
The iOS app was paid? I forgot about that. That means I paid even more than I remember! Urgh.
This reminds me the time they broke my heart when they were killing Little Snapper then re-package (and re-selling it) it as Ember
They tried doing the same thing for Clear, too. They released "Clear for iOS 7" with a new font (ya know, the default iOS 7 font) and multiple lists, and tried charging a second time.
I get the feeling that they get upset when people stop buying 2-year-old software, and instead of developing compelling new features, they take the easy way out and "relaunch" or abandon it.
I completely agree. Bought Ember because it looked like they were updating it more than Pixa App (a competitor). After I purchased it went stale.
I also bought Typed to have them do the same thing and put efforts into complete crap like Deep Dreamer.
I just came across Dropmark and I'm loving it! Highly recommend it. It is web-based but can do screenshot capture with share links and they have a native Mac app for uploading.
You can also try out https://eagle.cool
If only one single customer were enough to support an entire product team...
What a surprise! They killed LittleSnapper in an ugly way, Ember will have the same fate.
Sensational title. It's not 'RIP' - they're putting Ember 2 on hold and releasing a new version to remove sync and fix thumbnail issues.
I’ll miss the idea of Ember (the one-stop approach was great when it worked).
I won’t miss Ember itself. Too many library wipes, too little syncing…
Thanks to everyone else in this thread for sharing their alternatives (Inboard and Pixa). I’ll try those today!
This is pretty frustrating. I bought Ember when it first came out, at full price (I have a feeling it was £39.99 when it first launched — I remember it being reasonably expensive but seemed to be ideal for what I needed), but there's always been some issue with it.
First it was iCloud syncing being awful, so I switched to Dropbox syncing. That worked, and then they discontinued Ember for iOS. "OK, I guess", I thought.
Except now Ember hangs and crashes almost every time I use it. I must've sent 50+ crash reports to them and always hoped that the next update would fix it. I can still use the app, but every 5 minutes it would hang for 20 seconds or so, often eventually completely crashing.
I've had this issue for the last year or so, so I'm even less confident that it'll ever get fixed after this blog post. In the meantime I'll switch to a local library and hope that it stops freezing/crashing.
I love Ember. It's first and only inspiration collection product I have used which I really like. I'm glad they are at least going to support it with updates (so they say). I just bought it too.
I filed a bug on Ember last year for an issue that was majorly impeding my ability to use the product. Their support team responded saying the broken feature worked "as expected" and invalidated my report. Such a dishonest thing to do, I knew the real reason was they just didn't have the resources to fix the issue. I would not be able to trust another Realmac product after being treated like that.
Out of curiosity, what was the issue?
Booooo. I bought Ember and I use it every day.
I installed Koken on a subdomain of mine, I might transition over to it: koken.me
I was so close to getting Ember two weeks ago, but had this feeling that it wouldn't be around very long. This post is kind of crazy to read now, just two weeks later.
What are people's favourite alternatives to Ember? I like the syncing (when it works), I liked their annotating (until they ruined it with this 'smart shapes' crap) and I liked the basic filtering/tagging.
I use Dragdis. its a web app. I wish it had a native OSX and IOS app but it doesn't look like they plan on that. its free for a certain amount of folders, (i think 4 free) so I just keep a web design/graphic design/logo inspiration folders and it works great.
I've heard good things about inboard but I don't want to spend $20 for anything that doesn't have a mobile app as well.
Paper by 53 seems to be getting close to something similar since the new iphone app though
Cheaper, less full-featured alternative: Inboard
I'm so happy that I chose Pixa over Ember, I wouldn't want to have to start my library all over again. It was pretty clear this was gonna happen when they discontinued the iOS app.
I started with Ember, then went to Pixa, then went back to Ember because of the ability to save bookmarks (as opposed to just saving the website screenshot like in Pixa). Not a huge deal to lose the bookmark feature if I have to leave Ember, but it was nice.
I guess it's time to switch to Inboard.
I just downloaded the trial and had a quick play. Am I correct in thinking there's no ability to subscribe to RSS feeds like you can in Ember?
You are right about that.
I prefer Pixave to Inboard. It's not as designer friendly yet, but has a ton more features, better backup options, is much more stable, and seems to be developed much faster, too.
Pixave is great but it really needs some browser extensions to send URLS to it for clipping.
Posted this above but I switched to Dropmark and I'm loving it! It is web-based but can do screenshot capture with share links and they have a native Mac app for uploading.
I've tested all these apps mentioned here. I still prefer Ember™ features. Solved library syncing between macs (iMac and Macbook) with BitSync BitSync — very usefull — using it with other folders, like Sketch plug-ins, etc...
Check out http://raindrop.io
Pixave has been delightful for me.
What are the key differences between Pixave and Inboard, anybody know? (In my younger days I would try them all out...)
What a bad luck. I just purchased it last week. I wonder if I can get a refund :(
"If you've purchased Ember directly from us in the last ~3 months and no longer want to use it, please get in touch and we can issue you with a refund."
Sounds like they already considered cases like yours, which is pretty cool of them :D
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