But they didn't update the mouse design, which was easily the worst of these three products.

Magically more expensive!

I think it's pretty stupid that the mouse recharging slot is on the bottom. At least with batteries when they died you could put new ones in and keep doing what you were doing. Would have made sense to put it at the top of the mouse and turn it into a wired mouse while it charges. Poor design?

What a stupid way to charge the Magic Mouse.

For what is eject button if no one Mac have DVD drive?

33% more stability? What does that even mean?

FINALLY THEY'RE RECHARGABLE!

The one product that really needed changing got the fewest changes of them all. The mouse is possibly one of the worst pieces of hardware (except the lightning cables), that Apple makes. Updating it, and not fixing the horrendous ergonomic issues, doesn't make any sense to me whatsoever. Especially if the asking price is 80 bucks. For 80 bucks you can basically get any mouse on the market and nearly all of them above the $40 range are way more comfortable to use.

They might not look as 'clean', but when I've made the decision to use a mouse I'm not worrying about whether my hand thinks its pretty enough for it. What I care about is how comfortable and accurate it is.

A mouse is a specific type of product, where the aesthetics actually play a very small role in how good of a product it is.

Apple has made products before that discarded comfort for looks, but usually they've made an effort to fix it when they come around to update the product. Look at the earbuds for example (although, that took quite a long time). So why did the mouse get overlooked here? It's not like people haven't made their complaints clearly, or loudly enough. You can put this mouse in anybody's hands and they'll tell you it's a bad experience (talking purely about the ergonomics here).

No rose gold option? Get your shit together, Jony.

Force Touch vs 3D Touch vs Force Click?

I have a magic mouse and absolutely hate it, its one of my worst purchases in my life.

The mac keyboard is ok, i did like using it but much rather use a small mechanical keyboard like a razer black widow tournament edition or a small ducky keyboard.

I want to know who had the brilliant idea of putting the charge port under the mouse.

It's ugly as hell to have your mouse bottom up charging, and of course, as impractical as it gets. Who wants to stop whatever he's doing to stare blankly at a charging mouse for 2 hours?

So stupid it's almost infuriating.

this made me want to sell my unused keyboard + magic mouse for a mechanic keyboard like WASD

Where does the new Magic Mouse go and how does it look while charging? Does it come with a cable? A Cradle? who knows....

Anybody else notice the small slider size decrease when the videos are playing?

I hate calling them "Magic."

There isn't even anything special about the keyboard. The mouse and trackpad I get, at least a bit, they've got features no other mouse or trackpad have in their gestures and 3D Touch respectively, but the keyboard is just a keyboard. There's nothing magical.[/grumble]

Also, a bit of a dark pattern on their website, hiding bad reviews by default... http://imgur.com/a/1s1QH

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$80 for a mouse. That's pushing it.

The new designs look good, but the Australian prices are a bit excessive even for apple. $165 for the keyboard, $199 for the trackpad. Really? My Cherry MX Blue mechanical keyboard cost less than $120

Nothing beats my mechanical keyboard.

The first thought I had when I bought the very first wireless Apple mouse and keyboard was: Why the hell doesn't this recharge over USB so I can use it like the wired Apple mouse and keyboard I used to use? Seeing this half-step with the mouse is pretty frustrating. It's also the first thought I had when I held a dreamcast controller: Why the hell is the wire coming around to my side of the controller? This is truly disappointing. I can't imagine a good argument for avoiding this immense usefulness.

I prefer the aesthetics of the trackpad and mousepad. I prefer the design of old ones, however, for how cleverly they integrated the batteries; I think I also got a lot of pleasure out of screwing the battery lid off and on with a quarter. With the new devices being rechargeable w/o batteries, there's not much to be clever about. They're simple, straightforward, and bring the white-top style to the trackpad, which makes sense. I'm a big fan of those manual on/off switches too. I could never figure out of my old devices were on or off and would often turn them on, when transporting them in a backpack or something.

It's interesting that they still go with white keys for these devices and black keys for everything else. Anyone know why or have a good, crackpot theory?

Really wish there was a blank keyboard option.

"The rechargeable battery is the biggest change here, and Apple promises that two minutes of charging a dead mouse will provide enough power for about nine hours of use."

http://arstechnica.com/apple/2015/10/mini-review-apples-new-magic-keyboard-magic-mouse-2-and-magic-trackpad-2/

While you still need to stop what you're doing for a short period of time to recharge, it's not the two hours many here are complaining about. It's a mouse, not a laptop with a power hungry CPU requiring a lot of battery power to run. In daily use, my current magic mouse can run for nearly a month before I need to swap batteries and recharge. I think I can remember to plug my mouse in once or twice a month at night to make sure I'm well supplied with battery power.

I'm still disappointed that I can't get a wireless full size keyboard though. I love the number pad and I'll never give it up.

I like the new keyboard design. The trackpad in white looks more dated than the aluminum version though.

also I'd like to ask do you use caps-lock key? I think it could be a function with multi-touchable shift key. "command + tab" is more important function for me.

Loving these updates, subtle but sharp design changes.