Macaw Scarlet (scarlet.macaw.co)
over 8 years ago from Julian Lengfelder, Project & Studiomanagement @yccpgroup + Freelance Front End Designer
over 8 years ago from Julian Lengfelder, Project & Studiomanagement @yccpgroup + Freelance Front End Designer
Rotate & perspective all the screenshots so we have no idea wtf is going on. Perfect.
I don't want to be hurt again.
"we can change, baby. we promise! take us back..."
I was super excited about Macaw a couple years ago. Then it came out and I was immediately less excited. I'm skeptical of this one. We'll see.
"The previous version of Macaw – soon to be rebranded as Macaw Indigo – excelled at prototyping and mockups. Said another way, Indigo is best for earlier stage, conceptual work and Scarlet is best for getting to production." Brilliant, so the version I foolishly bought and discarded immediately is getting rebranded. And the new version is being sold as the version I thought "indigo" was supposed to be.
They should have just released "Macaw 2.0" and fixed the whole shebang, and possibly given early adopters a major discount. All this does is 1) create confusion and 2) skepticism of the company. It didn't have to be this way, IMO.
I see it exactly like you do.
100% agree.. so much potential but so little practical value. Reading this forum and Macaws it's clear that they've not made happy campers of their early backers.
Give a free upgrade to this new version for existing backers, run a new campaign to get some fresh backers in the door, put a big red cross over "indigo", and finally ferociously build out & improve Macaw to the point that it's a legitimate tool that should be in every web designers toolbox.
Only then do they stand to make any real money anyway .. not by stealing another 100 bucks from their early backers.
The real question is how well these tools can be integrated with CMS, MVC, & Static-site generator environments. If these can be accounted for, then this could really expedite front-end development.
Agreed. I really like Webflow but I feel like they critically need this and to decouple from the hosting model.
Can't you export all your files with a paid account?
Yes! But i'd love to see a deeper integration where I can fire up webflow and push a change.
Thanks guys, worrying about specificity is exactly what I love to do while I'm designing.
As far as I understand Scarlet, it is supposed to be used for production or preproduction states of sites. So this seems like a great feature.
And to be honest I love writing clean code, even while doodling around. ;)
Then the majority of the opening paragraph makes zero sense.
Fair point.
From the FAQ:
What’s the difference between Macaw Scarlet and the previous version of Macaw?
Scarlet is a completely different tool. The previous version of Macaw – soon to be rebranded as Macaw Indigo – excelled at prototyping and mockups. Scarlet is focused more on building full-fledged design systems. Said another way, Indigo is best for earlier stage, conceptual work and Scarlet is best for getting to production.
Was this site built in Scarlet?
Indeed, it was! However, it was designed by someone with an understanding of HTML, CSS and JS. That is a prerequisite for making the most of Scarlet.
So Macaw Scarlet is... the thing Macaw was sold to be, but didn't turn out to be?
WORD. I backed it up with so much hope at Kickstarter and it was pure disappointment.
I'll stick with Chrome, thanks.
Really cool of Macaw to make their own version of Webflow.
I didn't like Macaw at all (not powerful enough and the code quality wasn't great) but maybe I wasn't the target audience for it or something.
Maybe this will be better. I don't have my expectations set too high.
This site gets very high marks for jargon.
Scarlet is focused more on building full-fledged design systems
Not sure what that actually means, and after reading every word on the site, I'm still not sure why I actually need this. To me this seems a little bit like Blocs. I will say that I did realize a valuable lesson from looking at this site which is a mistake that I've made on other sites I've created.
Pagecloud has something very similar already. You can go back and forth on the WYSIWYG and edit & save code in the inspector seamlessly. I don't know how they do it, but I saw a demo of it in their Ottawa office. The cost of it might be a bit prohibitive ($99/site).
A little curious that their website isn't responsive, one would figure any of these WYSIWYG editors are building their product's website using their editor. (If they have faith in the product)
Someones been hanging out with Dimitri
THIS IS WEB DESIGN
I backed Macaw on the first they I saw on Kickstarter. I tried Macaw a number of times, but unfortunately couldn't love it. It doesn't feel ok to move your workflow to Macaw. There are many different connections between web design and html + css and I think no tool will be available in the that deals web design smoothly in the near future.
So I believe Scarlet won't make it but I believe it will be something after a year or two.
Is Scarlet a version bump for the main product, or an entirely new one?
Page looks slick but the transformed elements are a little buggy for me. Worried how a less powerful machine would handle the page.
Can someone please explain to me, what this thing actually does? Designing with code or designing as usual with code as output? Thanks!
Kind of looks like a browser designed specifically for developing which could be cool. There's no mention of preprocessor support though, let alone how it handles PHP or templating languages etc. - I'm sure most people aren't writing plain HTML or CSS on a daily basis.
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