11 comments

  • News TodayNews Today, over 9 years ago

    If the homepage checks your browser version then they should NOT use the site title in the notification-like bar.

    "OUTDATED BROWSER: YOUR BROWSER IS UP TO DATE, BUT CHECK WHAT WE DID FOR THE INTERNET ANYWAY."

    Read that sentence for a moment. "My browser is outdated...oh, it's up to date?".

    3 points
  • Tony GinesTony Gines, over 9 years ago

    The real issue is people browsing at work or school. They have no way to install software on these machines because I.T. is in charge of updating software/OS. There are still a huge number of computers running windows XP and even if the I.T. people are screaming at management to upgrade, budgets won't allow it.

    It's frustrating.

    1 point
    • Chris GriffithChris Griffith, over 9 years ago

      Totally understand this! (I used to work on a lot of government contracts) But! What if management is able to get away with not upgrading because our products work on outdated versions?

      0 points
    • Darth BaneDarth Bane, over 9 years ago

      The answer is obviously that the more we restrict outdated browsers, the bigger the incentive is for schools and companies to upgrade.

      1 point
      • Luke ChesserLuke Chesser, over 9 years ago

        I think thats the completely wrong attitude. The internet was designed around the principles of Universal Design. Purposefully restricting your site to not work in older browsers is damaging and unnecessary.

        0 points
        • Darth BaneDarth Bane, over 9 years ago

          Not really. It is in the interest of both us designers/developers AND the user/consumer that the web is made a better place and that the experience of the web is unified. It can never become unified when poorly implemented browsers have significant market share.

          It's not just about making our job easier, it's also about making the web a better place for everyone.

          0 points
          • Luke ChesserLuke Chesser, over 9 years ago

            But if people only have access to computers with older browsers, then they should still be able to use the web, because the web is an informational medium. The whole point is that if older browsers have significant market share, then you support them.

            Your argument is like saying 'people that write with their left hand should write with their right hand because then we can make everything right handed which makes my job easier'. If people are writing with their left hand, your job is to support them. Whether or not you choose to is up to you, but it's a dangerous opinion to say that everyone else should choose not to support them.

            Believe me, I'm with you in wishing everyone used a modern browser. Most of the sites I work on aren't necessarily well-built for older browsers. But I think it's incredibly important that the web aim to support as many browsers as it can.

            0 points
            • Darth BaneDarth Bane, over 9 years ago

              The right-handed argument is flawed, as it has to do with non-choice, you have absolutely no power over it. No matter how many IT guys you annoy, a left-handed person never become right-handed.

              A better analogy would be TVs: just because a lot of people still have 4:3 TVs, does that mean we should stop broadcasting in 16:9 to cater for these people? Some areas can only be evolved by forcing users to adapt.

              It's a huge mistake to continue supporting outdated and poorly coded browsers, because it encourages people to continue using them. We'll never get anywhere if people continue supporting IE.

              1 point
  • Ben Henschel, over 9 years ago

    Love it! My only question is what do they consider out of date? Just IE9 and below? Or is it any browser that is not the latest? I wouldn't want to bother users who are running Chrome 34.

    1 point
    • Bruno AmorimBruno Amorim, over 9 years ago (edited over 9 years ago )

      Hi Ben, thanks a lot for your feedback! You can set your target browser by using Internet Explorer browsers as reference or specifying a CSS property. Lower Than: "IE11" or "borderImage", "IE10" or "transform", "IE9" or "boxShadow", "IE8" or "borderSpacing".

      More info here: https://github.com/burocratik/outdated-browser

      Feel free to use it and help us to make it even better!

      Thanks a lot. Bruno.

      2 points
  • Jeff CouturierJeff Couturier, over 9 years ago

    This exists as well: http://browsehappy.com/ Made by the company behind WordPress.

    0 points