So you say you want some brutalism? (s-i-l-o.fr)
over 4 years ago from Ken Em
over 4 years ago from Ken Em
This is somewhat beautiful, but also entirely unusable.
"Usability" is relative. A ladder is less "usable" than an elevator, but they have different purposes and use cases.
I think your critique is totally valid (and I'm not saying that's what you're doing), but I also want to push back against usability as a hammer to beat down any new or weird idea that doesn't conform to established patterns or expectations.
He’s not comparing ladders to elevators here. He’s comparing websites to websites.
Yes, however, an commerce website is going to be less useful than a news website when you want to read up on current events (i.e. ladder vs. elevator)
And which use case do you think this style would make more usable?
A music label whose practice is contextual and experimental.
A publishing house that combines artists' books, experimentation with printing techniques and web publications.
I never said it was usable, I merely suggested that Sacha was not merely comparing websites to websites and offered an example of why the more nuanced comparison of ladders to elevators was appropriate.
Nice Analysis. My take on it is that nowdays Usability is just a another term that helps driving conversions. Like User Experience. Thing is that a lot of designers currently designing not neccessary for a better usage as for conversions. But that is just an opinion that i got. So therefore every break in the rule is welcome and might helps us questing ourself if we are still with the user. I think we as designers have a responsibility when we designing products.
Usability is about helping users achieve their goals with the least amount of confusion and failure. Sometimes (okay often) that’s conversions. But ”uuuuser” experience is the point.
Can you elaborate? Didn‘t get your point.
What about it can't be used?
AAA colour contrast, menu with a text label instead of an obtuse icon, full screen loading bar that doesn't obscure content, dark mode...
actually seems very useable to me, more so than familiar sites.
Lack of visual hierarchy.
It clearly does have a visual heirarchy. Using scale and proximity to organise material.
What it doesn't do is use weak fading greys to order its information by obfuscation.
It meets a checklist, that doesn't mean it's good. You have to also look at if it's easy to find what you want, focus on the correct information, etc. I know my eyes go everywhere and nowhere when I look at this site.
Your darting eyes are simply more suited to conservative trends. This experience is built for people who want to be challenged by their visual environment.
It's easy to fall in to the trap of feeling that our own experience is universal. Other people are different to us and want different things.
Yes, but that doesn't mean I'm wrong or you're right. Liking it is also just your opinion. This website goes against many traditionally accepted rules of good design, but at the end of the day, if this website has a goal beyond experimentation you'd need to verify that it actually achieves that.
Thanks I hate it
Nice hat
Wow, I absolutely love this. My first thought was, man I wish I could invert this. Then I clicked the plug in the top right. Even better.
I’m looking at this on the biggest iPad you can buy landscape, so maybe it’s not so nice elsewhere. To me, especially the dark mode, resembles what a futuristic newspaper could be on paper thin e-ink displays.
Combined with a sort of futuristic Apple Pencil, something more low key like a bic pen, I would be happy to do some crosswords and just soak it all in while my robot makes me bacon and eggs.
This is way more interesting to me than the cookie cutter tech websites everyone seem to design nowadays. At least this design is experimenting and doing something different. And just because it doesn't fall into the mainstream style, doesn't make it shit.
Just because it's different doesn't make it good ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
The whole brutalism fad is completely lost on me. I don't get the appeal
IMO Nicky's website outdoes even this brualism: https://nickytes.la/
its like the Balenciagisation of Webdesign.
As well as a ridiculous, hard to remember and hard to explain URL?
brutal
On another context than Brutalism, I just learned this morning that this website is running on my favorite CMS: Kirby. I'm so proud because it is probably one of the best CMS out there. The new version (3) just came out and it offers one of the most beautiful admin interfaces i've seen. That seriously makes my day haha :)
Go try it just in case :)
Like it. It reminds me of Bauhausbucher series books.
So you say you want some meme-fied kitsch?
I like it!
Would you like it after a month using it?
maybe the worst is the first 5 mins shock, after that you can get used to it... so if the content is good I would came back again
Yes, I think this is valid even for a lot of other things that hurt when you use them.
Love brutalist designs, and this one is actually pretty neat. Couple of things:
There's way too much content for a single-color palette. Other brutalist websites I've seen (can't think of any examples now)
Don't make any of the content sticky. Right now the home page has 2 sticky sidebar columns AND a sticky top nav header. Again, with a single color palette and tightly-packed content it's hard to scroll without losing your reading position on the page.
Very cool! Nice to see traditional graphic design styles finally making their way into UI design now that the tech has caught up.
I actually like it. I don't understand french, so that might be why I'm not as bothered by the lack of visual hierarchy, but still: it's a clear vision that is well made. Even down to the markup and CSS — super tidy.
edit: Holy crap, that "Back to top"-button, love it!
No, I would never say that.
holy hell
I love me some brutalism, but holy information overload.
Holy mother of brutals!
Brutal tap target sizes: the social icons at the top
Obligatory "this isn't brutalism" comment.
have to agree
please stop this.
make it stop, ken.
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