• Laurens SpangenbergLaurens Spangenberg, 8 years ago

    Hey Andrew,

    I'm a 17 year old about to enter art school (to study UI design.) I already self-taught myself design up to a point where I'm doing design services to a startup. What life advice would you give?

    DN love forever.

    8 points
    • Andrew WilkinsonAndrew Wilkinson, 8 years ago (edited 8 years ago )

      Why are you going to school? I'd say just jump into the pool and start swimming—you'll learn way faster and gain real world experience.

      15 points
      • Laurens SpangenbergLaurens Spangenberg, 8 years ago (edited 8 years ago )


        Besides that though, I personally would also like to study art in general.

        EDIT: Metalab's in Victoria? I live right in Vancouver.

        1 point
        • Andrew WilkinsonAndrew Wilkinson, 8 years ago

          Oh nice. Yeah, we're actually starting a Vancouver office soon. Email me your portfolio: andrew@metalab.co :-)

          5 points
        • Michael AleoMichael Aleo, 8 years ago

          As a college-dropout designer paying his wife's student loans off—don't go to college for someone else. I'm with Andrew on this one.

          11 points
        • Mason LawlorMason Lawlor, 8 years ago (edited 8 years ago )

          From a fellow self taught Canadian designer who is 6 years behind Andrew– I think you should reconsider his question. Because even if you want to study Art in general, the hard truth I've learned is that it's hard to focus on two things at once. If you want to become a design "rockstar" it takes 100% focus, at least in the beginning.

          Perhaps look at it this way:

          I quit my job to start a design agency 3.5 years ago. I would still be in school. Instead– I've bootstrapped a company, taken venture capital, lost my company, went through a lawsuit, got 100% ownership back, and rebuilt it again from scratch.

          I can't tell you what's right or wrong, but I have a feeling they don't teach you that kind of street skills in school. Trial by fire.

          An alternative idea– If you're parents are planning to buy your tuition in cash, consider having them invest that money into a small ad campaign over a 2-4 year agreement with $25-50/day. You could live in their basement to keep your overhead low. If you put your mind to it for 4 years straight reading conversion/marketing blogs like Quicksprout, and books like The Four Hour Workweek, you will succeed. It sounds like you're already good at picking skills up via Google.

          Just an alternate route to consider. Good luck man.

          1 point
    • Nathan HueningNathan Huening, 8 years ago

      Self-taught... Yourself?

      0 points
      • Laurens SpangenbergLaurens Spangenberg, 8 years ago (edited 8 years ago )

        Did you really comment on a several day old thread just to point out a grammar mistake I made?

        1 point